Thread: Patton $ Online

A discussion about what your dollars get you.

Welcome! You are invited to wander around and read all of the comments that have been posted here at Patton & Co., but as soon as you register you can see the bid limits that Alex, Peter and Mike propose for each player, and you can post your own comments. Registering is free, so please join us!

The biggest adjustment needed (so far) --

Corey Knebel in yesterday's update: PK5 $19, MF5 $17, AP4 $25

Who knows how long it will take his hammy to heal? It didn't look good.

Pitching in a non-save situation!

In the XFl, where PK, MF and AP all comprise the front office, we... don't have a backup closer. Starting on Monday, we will be going completely against the fashion with a pitching staff of nothing but starters.

Pray for our ERA and WHIP.

Here's a thought that occurred to me last night, for those of you drafting this weekend.

The craziness at the major league trade deadline is going to be crazier than it's ever been.


Because teams won't be making qualifying offers this winter to the big stars they plan to lose because they are afraid their big stars will accept.

That's what collusion gets you.

Alex Patton Alex
Apr 6 '18

The new and final release of the season is posted in the Subscriber section, full of extra notes and a few additions and tweaks to some projections. 

Have a great season!

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Apr 5 '18

There will be all sorts of goodies in Quick Memo for the final update tomorrow. In addition to the ones that are already there.

AP Sleepers, PK Sleepers, guest appearance sleepers, ETR day/month for all significant players on the DL, and, for people who like buying good stats that are already in the can (who doesn't?), wins, saves, homers and steals are noted for players who have surpassed what you would expect in a given week.

For example, QMemo for George Kontos: save.

For Hanley Ramirez: 2 SB.

Bids have been tweaked up and down based on actual events. Of course they have.

Starting lineups, pitching rotations, bullpen roles and the ever-shrinking ranks called bench players are no longer guesswork; they are real.

If you are drafting this weekend and are unprepared, don't panic. Get the update tomorrow afternoon, take Friday off, and you'll be fine.

Or get it Saturday morning. That would work too. Sort by position and bid, cross the frozen players off, and, if the freezes on other teams have you gasping, send memo to self: the bids for the best players aren't going to do it.

Alex Patton Alex
Apr 4 '18

For dynasty leagues, the big new addition is John Sickels' top 175 prospects.

Here's how all of the prospect rankings are listed, in order:

Custom = John Sickels top 175

PR1 = Baseball America top 100

PR2 = Minor League Analyst top 100

PR3 = Baseball Prospectus top 101

PR4 = Rotowire 400

List the Level to see the highest level that a prospect reached last year.

And then there are these notations for prospects in the PK5, MF5 and AP4 bids:

R1 = grab this prospect in the first round of your reserve draft

R2 = serious prospect who could contribute to your team this year

R3 = veteran (in the majors as well as the minors) who you might pick if you play in an Ultra league

R4 = serious prospect who is at least a year away

R5 = super-serious prospect who should pick in the first round if you play in a dynasty league (who in serious dynasty leagues is already taken!)

Alex Patton Alex
Mar 30 '18

The March 29 Updates are loaded. You may download them now!

Lots of player notes. My bid prices add up for the most part. In AL they're almost exact. I wish I played 5x5 in AL.

In NL the pot is lite about $40. Feel free to add it after you add your keeps to the players you covet, or those you think I undervalue. 

I think we got most of the roster changes, though changes were pouring in while we were finishing up, but keep an eye on changes through the weekend. There is likely to be a lot of jockeying.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 29 '18
Second Alex's comment.  I take Peter's spreadsheets, kill the columns that I don't need (I will likely use the 3/29 versions for our 4/7 auction, as the 4/5 version won't give me enough time), move the keepers UP, spread the profits below, make sure the balance between hitting and pitching isn't completely out of whack . . . and then I try to stay calm when we don't buy anybody for the first 4 rounds, as we didn't last year.  Seems to work.  My partner uses a different service, which I don't think is as good, but when we see a SERIOUS difference in bid prices, we take a close look.
Mike Dean TMU2009
Mar 26 '18

I don't see how anyone can look at Peter's Google doc and not become a subscriber. But that's just me.

(Peter, you have $2 extra for your bids. Ben Revere's been cut.)

With the addition of Tout Wars in the latest update, here are the prices that are in the software for your consideration.






Tout Wars

To the left of these is the Bid column. If you're in a hurry, you can transfer any of the six prices to Bid, enter the freeze lists, and start adjusting until your bids add up.

As far as I know, nobody else pitching to auctions leagues offers anything that is this comprehensive and simple.

If you play in a mixed league snake draft, list Mixed League, sort by position and bid, and you have a hierarchy that is slightly different from the ADP lists that everybody else is using. Which is a good thing. 

Alex Patton Alex
Mar 26 '18

Okay, Text and Excel files are posted. Good luck this week. We'll be posting next week's update while 15 games are being played. Distracting!

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 23 '18

You can track my pricing and projection changes at

This week I did a lot of fiddling based on things I learned about the player pool in recent weeks. Not many radical changes, but nudges one way or the other depending on how the room seems to be going.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 23 '18

The full install archive for March 22 and the PWO-PWW archive is posted. So is a slightly updated EXE of the program, which adds some additional custom fields.

Excel and text files are in the works and will be posted later tonight.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 23 '18