Thread: Leaderboards

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There was a very simple math mistake in my 5x5 formulas for pitchers. Here's the same list of ten most expensive pitchers with earnings corrected.

                                cost         earned         +/-

1. Max Scherzer         42             28            -14

2. Jacob deGrom         41            35              -6

3. Chris Sale                38            17            -21

4. Justin Verlander       35            49            14

5. Gerrt Cole                34            47            13

6. Corey Kluber            34            -1            -35

7. Aaron Nola                32           18           -14

8. Blake Snell                30           10           -20

9. Trevor Bauer             29             17          -12

10. Carlos Carrasco      29              5           -25

average                         34             22          -12 

As you see, the great pitchers gain a little, the not great don't change.

Colin will be importing the revised formulas this weekend.

Alex Patton Alex
Nov 7

The ten most expensive pitchers in 2019 and what they earned:

                                cost         earned        +/-

1. Max Scherzer         42            27            -16

2. Jacob deGrom        41            33             -8

3. Chris Sale                38            16           -22

4. Justin Verlander       35            47            12

5. Gerrt Cole                34            45            11

6. Corey Kluber            34            -1           -35

7. Aaron Nola               32            17           -15

8. Blake Snell               30            10           -20

9. Trevor Bauer             29            16           -13

10. Carlos Carrasco     29               5           -25

average                        34             22            -13 

The long and the short: the market paid $7 less for its ten most coveted pitchers (all starters, naturally, in 5x5) and the group earned, on average, $3 less than the hitters. Two pitchers turned handsome profits. No hitter earned what he cost.

Alex Patton Alex
Nov 5

A different kind of leaderboard. Our kind of leaderboard.

The ten most expensive players in 2019 and what they earned.

                               cost        earned        +/1

1. Mike Trout            50            32            -18

2. Mookie Betts        48            32            -16

3. Treat Turner          41           33             - 8                                

4. Nolan Arenado     41            33              -7 

5. Aaron Judge        41             17            -24

6. Jose Ramirez      40             24            -16

7. J.D. Martinez       39             29            -10

8. Bryce Harper        39            28            -11

9. Jose Altuve            38            25           -13 

10. Giancarlo Stanton    37         3            -34

Cost is the average salary paid in the three widely-followed demo leagues: CBS, LABR and Tout Wars. All 12-team 5x5 with $260 budgets. Tout counts OPB instead of BA.

Earned is what my 2019 formulas, which I've finally calculated, show them earning in 5x5.

The bottom line:

average price: $41

average earned: $25

average profit or loss: -$16

Alex Patton Alex
Nov 5

Baseball Prospectus top ten WARP -- pitchers.

1. Stephen Strasburg 8.3

2. Justin Verlander 7.9

3. Gerrit Cole 7.9

4. Jacob deGrom 7.8

5. Jack Flaherty 7.1

6. Max Scherzer 6.2

7. Yu Darvish 6.0

8. Lance Lynn 5.9

9. Charlie Morton 5.9

10. Patrick Corbin 5.9

Strasberg isn't just at the top of this list, he's at the top with some to spare.

Darvish and Corbin crash the party.

Alex Patton Alex
Oct 9

Fangraphs top ten WAR -- pitchers:

1. Gerrit Cole 7.4

2. Jacob deGrom 7.0

3. Lance Lynn 6.8

4. Max Scherzer 6.5

5. Justin Verlander 6.4

6. Charlie Morton 6.1

7. Stephen Strasburg 5.7

8. Shane Bieber 5.6

9. Zach Greinke 5.4

10. Lucas Giolito 5.1

Cole is the biggest gainer (compared to Baseball-Reference) while a teammate is the biggest loser. One Ranger stays at No. 3 while the other drops off the list.

Alex Patton Alex
Oct 8

Baseball-Reference top ten WAR -- pitchers:

WAR for Pitchers
1.Verlander • HOU7.8
2.Minor • TEX7.8
3.Lynn • TEX7.6
4.deGrom • NYM7.3
5.Cole • HOU6.9
6.Strasburg • WSN6.3
7.Rodriguez • BOS6.0
8.Flaherty • STL5.9
9.Scherzer • WSN5.8
10.Soroka • ATL5.7


Park context gives the the Rangers two of the three best starting pitchers this year? I can't think what else explains it.

Alex Patton Alex
Oct 8

Fangraphs top ten WAR for position players (fielding included):

1 Trout 8.6

2 Bregman 8.5

3 Yelich 7.8

4 Bellinger 7.8

5 Semien 7.6

6 Marte 7.1

7 Rendon 7.0

8 Bogaerts 6.8

9 Betts 6.6

10 Springer 6.5

Biggest difference from  Baseball-Reference is Bellinger.

Alex Patton Alex
Oct 7

Starting a new thread... First up: a comparison of two WAR rankings at Baseball-Reference:

Wins Above Replacement for position players

A single number that presents the number of wins the player added to the team above what a replacement player (think AAA or AAAA) would add.

1.Bellinger   LAD  9.0

2.Bregman   HOU  8.4

3.Trout  LAA  8.3

4.Semien  OAK  8.1

5.Yelich  MIL  7.1

6.Marte  ARI  6.9

7.Betts  BOS  6.8

8.Chapman  OAK  6.7

9.Story  COL  6.4

10.Rendon  WSN  6.3

Offensive Wins Above Replacement (everything but Fielding)

The same statistic as Wins Above Replacement for Position Players (WAR), but with the fielding value excluded.

1.Trout LAA  8.3

2.Bregman  HOU  7.7

3.Semien  OAK  7.5

4.Yelich  MIL  7.3

5.Bogaerts  BOS  7.1

6.Marte  ARI  6.6

7.Bellinger  LAD  6.6

8.Rendon  WSN  6.4

9.Alonso  NYM  5.8

10.Devers  BOS  5.7 

Alex Patton Alex
Oct 6