Yasmani Grandal Chicago White Sox

Age: 32 (November 08, 1988) | 6' 1" | 235lbs. | Bats: Both C-32 1B-6 DH-7 PH-21
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
LAD NL 2017 129 438 50 108 40 130 27 0 22 58 0 1 .247 .308 .459 8 27 .298 44/16/40 11 11
LAD NL 2018 140 440 65 106 72 124 23 2 24 68 2 1 .241 .349 .466 14 24 .278 41/17/42 15 15
MIL NL 2019 153 513 79 126 109 139 26 2 28 77 5 1 .246 .380 .468 17 22 .279 39/23/38 17 17
CHW AL 2020 46 161 27 37 30 58 7 0 8 27 0 0 .230 .351 .422 15 30 .299 36/23/41 13 13
CHW AL 2021 63 181 42 34 60 64 3 0 14 38 0 0 .188 .388 .436 24 26 .189 43/16/41 4 5
Career 10yrs 988 3135 443 744 547 895 146 7 163 481 11 7 .237 .351 .444 15 24 .276 n/a
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Six-year scan in Defensive Runs Saved:

2012: 15

2013: 4

2014: -5

2015: 5

2016: 14

2017: 17

Alex Patton Alex
Dec 6 '17

Tied the game with a homer on a 3-2 pitch with two out in the top of the ninth in Anaheim, then literally threw it away in the bottom of the inning.

Can Kershaw find a way to lose the game tonight and clinch the freeway series for the Halos? I think it's entirely possible. At the odds I would bet on it.

Alex Patton Alex
Jun 29 '17

After that 2 HR opening day, it looked pretty ugly for awhile ... but since his 3 for 4 performance on April 30 he's been on a tear, batting .388/.414/.627.  Up to $6 in 4x4 as we approach the 1/3 mark of the season, so he should comfortably surpass bid limits (barring injury) and looks to help Mike break even on his Tout dollars.

Phil Ponebshek Texpope
May 26 '17

That was me. Tristan Cockcroft and someone else were going back and forth on Grandal and Tristan stopped at $18. I said $19. Tristan looked bemused but let him go.

I would not have said $21.

Mike Gianella MikeG
Mar 29 '17

$19 in Tout.

Earl Weaver would approve.

Alex Patton Alex
Mar 28 '17

That's a legitimate concern about Molina, Mike. Catchers generally don't age well, especially if they keep catching. Was it 1500 games that Bill James found as the breaking point? I can't find it right now, but both Johnny Bench and Gary Carter hit the wall at 1900 games.

Grandal has a ways to go.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 6 '17

Tristan Cockcroft and I were (gently) jawing about Grandal last night. He's on Peter's side on this one.

I'm really scared of Molina this year. The track record for catchers his age with this mileage is bad.

Mike Gianella MikeG
Mar 6 '17

I love Grandal, but at this point he's kind of proved who he is. And batting average he is not. And I play in an OBP league. My bids are based on the last three years: Grandal in my pricing was 8-5-9. $10 seems a fair bid. Molina was 12-12-21. $14 seems fair there.

Alex has Grandal the last three at 9-8-11. He has Molina at 11-10-17.

I love Grandal, but it seems like there is some irrational exuberance about him. Maybe he'll break out this year, but if you pay for him as if he will break out, then you're not buying the break out you're buying him at par. A different thing.

As for Molina, $14 may be a little rich for him. He's getting older. If everyone else is so down on him, I guess I'll end up owning him, though I don't love him the way I love Grandal.

Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Mar 6 '17

I'm trying to understand the disconnect between Grandal and Molina.  I feel like the bids should be reversed for both, though maybe the bids are telling me what I need to hear.

Grandal gets a $10 bid in The Guide. But he is ranked as the consensus #5 catcher on Fangraphs, 4 in the Baseball America rag (not counting Schwarber) and is the 7th catcher off the board according to ADP.

Molina is Guide $14, but Fangraphs #12, BA #16, ADP 12.

In The Guide mock, Grandal went with pick #123, Molina 8 catchers later at #230.

Grandal also gets a couple of picks in The Guide while Molina gets a pan. 

I get Grandal's durability issues and Molina's 2016 resurgence. But it appears people are willing to pay for the potential big score while ho-hum gets overlooked. 

Gary Cruciani Megary
Mar 6 '17