Thread: Patton & Co. League

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As far as money on the table, I always figure that leaving $2-3 is a venial sin -- that just means that you didn't have to go $2 to get the $1 guys you really wanted.  You could make a case that you had some margin for error.  But over $5?  That's a guy you wanted that somebody else got.

Mike Dean TMU2009
Apr 8 '16

Funny story!

Just looking at the freezes that are posted here, I'm with Jeff.

I told Peter to spend $55 on Harper and not a penny more.

But didn't mean it.

Alex Patton Alex
Apr 8 '16

The Yeasts are not wonderfully pleased with the draft, but don't think it was a bad draft for us. We had very little money left to draft a team and a very solid core of keepers. We only needed to fill 3 offensive positions (SS, OF, and Util) and were willing to spend 12-15 on Trevor Story before his great 3 games and then dedicate the rest on pitching. I stopped bidding on story at 18,but the co-owner (Jeff) couldn't keep his finger off the button. We ended up with a $24 Story and very little left for pitching.

Our offense looks very solid(could use a few more steals) and we expect to churn our pitching staff into a respectable, middle of the road staff.

Keepers in bold.

C Buster Posey $31

C Wilson Ramos $13

1B Brandon Belt $28

2B Danny Espinoza $2

SS Trevor Story $24

3B Maikel Franco $15

1B - 3B Nolan Arenadp $31

2B - SS Aaron Hill $6

OF Michael Conforto $5

OF Odubel Herrera $7

Of Gregory Polanco $15

OF Yasiel Puig $25

OF Ryan Raburn $1

Util Colin Walsh $1

Res. Forrest Wall, Vistor Robles, Mallex Smith, Alex Verdugo, David Dahl

SP Stephen Strasburg $32

RP A.J. Ramos $2

SP Ross Stripling $1

SP Andrew Cashner $11

SP Hyun-Jin Ryu $5

SP Homer Bailey $2

SP Tyler Chatwood $1

RP Tyler Clippard $1

RP Kevin Siegrist $1

Res--Jose De Leon, Jorge De La Rosa, Jason Motte, Braden Shipley, Justin Nicolino

Wish we would have had a few more $1 pitchers in the que towards the end of the draft. Now it comes down to managing our team for the rest of the season.

Donny Brubaker donbru
Apr 8 '16

I almost always end up leaving money on the table. I've read everything for decades saying you should never leave money on the table, and I know it's technically correct, but I always end up doing it anyway. Not only do I do it, but I think the way I do it is correct. Someday I'll do a thesis on it.

I have an excel spreadsheet that I use and at the very top is the number telling whether the auction is over or under bid and by how much. It even turns green or red. After about 50 players were taken in the PCL, the auction was UNDER bid by around $70.

I pretty much knew Melvin Upton would go for $15. Not him specifically, but I knew stuff like that would happen, so I bought early and chose not to play when it was happening, and I didn't.

But here's the tricky part of the PCL last night - it wasn't like Stage 1 where prices were way off, but rather it was a slow drip drip drip. I had Jaso at 7, he went for 6. I had Syndergaard for 32, he went for 31. McCutch I had at 44, he went for 42. Cole 32/31. It was something that was so subtle you didn't really notice it.

Because of that, it sort or corrected the same way (Melvin Upton aside). $7 for Roark instead of $6, $6 for Jungmann instead of $5. And then in dollar day a lot of $3 guys were going for $1, but that always happens.

The bottom line: My team isn't great and I've learned nothing. But it was fun.

Keith Prosseda andypro
Apr 8 '16
Yes. It was brutal and normally, I'm not this guy. Normally, I'm the first guy into dollar days.  As I said, just a bit too much cleverness on my part.
Kent Ostby Seadogs
Apr 8 '16

Wow, $17 on the table?  That's brutal.

I think our league record is around $20.  Well, actually, the REAL record is $70, but that's another story with an asterisk.  We had an expansion owner once upon a time, and he came into the auction with $260 and no players, as will happen.  He also had some impressive looking charts, and showed good discipline in the early rounds, as players went for high (inflation-adjusted) prices.  We all waited for him to jump in.  He didn't.  Round after round went back. He didn't jump in.  He mumbled something about waiting for bargains.  We finally realized that his lovely charts made NO accounting for inflation.  When he finally DID get in, there was almost nowhere to spend the money, and he left $70 on the table. 

Mike Dean TMU2009
Apr 8 '16

Inflation was overall about 25%.

Bruce went for 23 to Ribbie and Roobarb

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Apr 8 '16

What were the various inflation calculations? The Silent Oracle would be interested to see.

Alex Patton Alex
Apr 8 '16
So who got Jay Bruce and how much?
joel schreier jschri
Apr 8 '16

My Wizards of Oz are the mysterious team that left money on the table (I briefly considered changing my name to Seventeen on the Table).

Essentially, in that ugly part of the draft for people who don't spend their money, I bought Melvin Upton for 15.  This was after I let Cespedes go for 31 even though my list said 35.

My problem was good old-fashioned cleverness.  The kind where you think you cansneak up on a sleeping bear and steal his kill.  However, it's done and nothing I can do to change it so I'm not going to worry about it (although I am going to make some adjustments before my home league draft on Sunday).

New players are bolded.

CT: Schwarber 15, Norris 11

CI: Van Slyke 2, Freese 9, Murphy 18

MI: Kendrick 12, Aybar 14, Cabrera 12

OF: Revere 21, Span 18, Crawford 12, Upton 15, Lagares 1

UT: A.Rameriz 15

PI: Grienke 28, Conley 3, Familia 10, Zeigler 1, Nelson 6, Simon 1, Rodney 7, Jungemann 6, Roark 6

Reserves: O'Brien, Giolitto, Tallion, Renfroe, De Aza, Colon, Reed, Bellinger, Guerrero, McMahon.

Kent Ostby Seadogs
Apr 8 '16