Carlos Santana Seattle Mariners

Age: 32 (April 8, 1986) | 5' 11" | 210lbs. | Bats: Both 1B-149 3B-19 PH-4
Tm Lg YEAR G AB R H BB SO 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BA OBP SLG BB% SO% BABIP G/L/F % $4x4 $5x5
CLE AL 2014 152 541 68 125 113 124 25 0 27 85 5 2 .231 .365 .427 17 19 .249 40/19/40 20 19
CLE AL 2015 154 550 72 127 108 122 29 2 19 85 11 3 .231 .357 .395 16 18 .261 45/18/37 18 17
CLE AL 2016 158 582 89 151 99 99 31 3 34 87 5 2 .259 .366 .498 14 14 .258 43/16/41 23 23
CLE AL 2017 154 571 90 148 88 94 37 3 23 79 5 1 .259 .363 .455 13 14 .274 41/20/39 18 18
PHI NL 2018 161 560 82 128 110 93 28 2 24 86 2 1 .229 .352 .414 16 14 .231 40/16/44 15 16
Career 9yrs 1277 4554 655 1123 836 905 264 15 198 673 42 18 .247 .363 .442 15 17 .265 n/a
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19 games at 3B!  So close, and yet so far . . . I think $13 is a pretty accurate price.  

Mike Dean TMU2009

Moving from Philly to Seattle, along with another trip around the sun, isn't going to help him turn back into a 30+ HR hitter again.  And if he falls below 20...?

Phil Ponebshek Texpope

$13 says to me you don't want him, and maybe you don't if your league fights for batting average. But he's never been worth less $16. If Seattle keeps him, he plays. He walks. And maybe his grounders are a bit luckier in 2019. You say 13 and I say 14. Don't know whether I say 16, unless i'm in an on-base league.

David Molyneaux NeauxBrainers ()

Back to the AL in the Segura trade.  He's getting older, but the Mariners have had a hell of a time finding a decent first basemen over the years.  Maybe he's the answer.

Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
I'm working on Big Prices for the Guide. Today I have Carlos Santana with a price of $13. What do you think?
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Nov 17

Wondering how much of that BABIP was due to the shift, and how much bad luck.  Losing a bunch of doubles made his SLG pretty pedestrian, despite the HRs.

Phil Ponebshek Texpope
Oct 1

Although one of his hits yesterday - the RBI single - was a dribbler up the 3B line with the bases loaded that just nobody could figure out what to do with.  The Phillies announcers were like "well, that makes up for all the hard hit balls right at people so far this spring".

But his first base hit was of the "what happens when you hit the ball hard" variety.  Hard shot up the middle that nobody could get a glove on.  If you keep hitting it hard, hits will come.

Phil Ponebshek Texpope
May 24

If it does go up 50 points from .183 that would still leave him with a career worst Babip.  "Way" is not a very sabermetric term for sure, but I was thinking more along the lines of, "Will his Babip get back to his career average?"  I'm not optimistic it will unless the line drive rate corrects. 

Could happen for all the reasons you and jeff give.  Heck, it went up .010 in one day!

Gary Cruciani Megary
May 24

Hitters changing leagues almost always struggle initially. It should only get better from here.

jeff merk jeffamerk
May 24

I'll bet it will go 50 points up ... and that's way in my book.  Hitting the ball hard, especially as the weather warms, pays benefits ... shift or no shift.

Phil Ponebshek Texpope
May 24