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Ubaldo Jimenez Baltimore Orioles
I need to go back to my Sportsline numbers and tick him up. I doubt I'll get him anywhere around $5 given past history in draft format, but we'll see.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Feb 4 '08
MikeG, that's a pretty good assessment. Not that I read much into what offseason reports tell me (who knows if they're true), but I've come across several reports stating that Jiminez has added 15 pounds of muscle to his frame over the offseason and that he has worked tirelessly on his endurance. Couple that with the fact that he was working into the 6th innings late into the year and the playoffs. It only makes it harder not to go after him.

Alex, you mirrored my thoughts exactly. It's hard to get the "old" Coors out of my head but the fact is the days of avoiding Rockies pitchers are behind us. Not only have they managed to stock their rotation and bullpen with home grown talent that will succeed in their home ballpark but they've also matched the talents of the former Blake Street Bombers. With Holiday, Tulo, Atkins, Helton, and Hawpe, they've got the meat in the order to add a lot of wins to any starting pitcher's totals.
Andrew Palmer LFH-Zeke
Feb 4 '08
Casey Kotchman Florida Marlins
Finally, an Angels prospect makes good!

If he's the most valuable 1B in the AL this year, will anyone really be shocked?
Jurgen Maas Jurgen
Feb 4 '08
Tim Lincecum San Francisco Giants
The skills are there to merit Yoda's enthusiasm. But as we've seen with King Felix, it's a gamble paying young talent on promise alone.
Jurgen Maas Jurgen
Feb 4 '08
Joe Crede Minnesota Twins
If Crede is healthy he's going to end up playing 3B somewhere, even if he hasn't been dealt by your draft day. Uncertainty may lower his price, which makes him a better buy, but it only takes one other owner to drive him back up to a par based on what he'll earn with a job.

Note, I have no advice here except to watch closely.
Peter Kreutzer Rotoman
Feb 4 '08
Brad Ausmus Los Angeles Dodgers
Toz and I disagree about catcher philosophy; I'd rather take a chance on a guy like Ianetta who could earn $8 or $10, but who could also be in the negatives, than a guy like Ausmus, who in either case will be closer to zero. (Though I think Ausmus won't get the ABs to even make it to $1 in value in 2008.) Some of it depends on your freeze list/other catcher. If you're protecting a solid offensive team, and/or have a top-flight primary catcher, minimizing risk is fine. However, I tend to do that more with my $5 to $10 guys than my dollar hitters; the latter, I want guys who can hit but don't have the obvious line on ABs. Obviously, this is a better play in keeper leagues, where the $1 gamble can pay off in a year.
mike fenger mike
Feb 4 '08
Chris Iannetta New York Yankees
My bid is mainly based on my belief that Torrealba hit way over his head last year. Chances are it will be tough for him to lose his job, unless of course Ianetta hits when he does get chances to play. I do think that's worth $2 or $3.
mike fenger mike
Feb 4 '08
Tim Lincecum San Francisco Giants
Not sure how he didn't get onto my list. I saw him a fair amount last year, and I think he will have good success. He did start to nibble late in the season, but if he trusts his stuff, I see a solid year. He could yet be converted to a closer, which is another reason to spend the extra dollar.
mike fenger mike
Feb 4 '08
We agree to disagree yoda - if you pay $14-$16 for him as a contender and he earns $9, that's not good. Worse yet, he does worse, and you've shot your value. And if he underperforms, you don't get top dollar on a $14 pitcher. I don't see why you take the risk there. There are better, cheaper gambles.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Feb 4 '08
I disagree. You need guys like Lincecum in order to win. Owners will always find faults in him but his track record, skills and talent show that he is a hidden gem. If healthy, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't crack top 25.
E Park yoda
Feb 3 '08
The real trouble with Lincecum as I see it is when he will become that top 25 starter. If you are contending, the $14 bid limit is maybe a $1 or $2 more than you want to go. If you are looking toward next year, maybe you tick that up $1.

Crapshoots don't work well for strong contenders.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Feb 3 '08
Brad Ausmus Los Angeles Dodgers
Actually if you play in a league using OB% instead of BA (I do), Ausmus will kill you. Although their career OB%'s are nearly identical, Treanor's OB% was 39 points higher than Ausmus' last season, which would have helped the average team in my league, in that category...and it ain't like Ausmus will improve at his age. I say pass in all formats.
Lew Prince theoldfart
Feb 3 '08
Casey Blake Colorado Rockies
Here's another case where the 5x5 bid is way out of line. He's earned $16 two straight years in 4x4 and less two of the previous 3 years. He doesn't score a lot of runs so his value has to be lower in 5x5. That and his age means the bid has to be lowered considerably.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 3 '08
Every year I seem to end up with this guy, and at all times I fear he could just drop off the earth. Now he's 34. I wouldn't touch him unless he's at a huge discount, bigger still than the ones I've gotten the past several years.
Chris  Patterson YoLaTengo
Feb 3 '08
Johan Santana Minnesota Twins
Other interesting Rule V picks:

http://homerderby.com/archives/1580
Brian Boyaji EL-NINO
Feb 3 '08
I know, it's a bit long (my aplogies in advance), but interesting reading the "damage control" coming out of the spin room in Minnesota:
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TWINS NEWS: A Letter from Dave St. Peter

Dear Twins Fans:

On behalf of the entire Minnesota Twins organization, I'd like to take this opportunity to follow up regarding today's announced trade of Johan Santana to the New York Mets in exchange for outfielder Carlos Gomez and pitchers Deolis Guerra, Philip Humber and Kevin Mulvey.

Trading a pitcher of Johan Santana's stature and character was a very difficult decision for the Twins organization. Since being acquired as an unknown 20 year old by the Twins in the 1999 Rule 5 Draft, Johan has emerged as one of the game's elite pitchers, as well as an ultimate competitor, teammate and role model. The Twins organization is incredibly thankful for Johan's significant contributions to this franchise and wish he and his family all the best going forward.

As the club has stated many times, our first choice was to sign Johan to a contract extension ensuring he remained in a Twins uniform for years to come. Despite the largest multi-year offer in Twins history - one which would have rewarded Johan with the highest annual salary among all pitchers in Baseball - the team and Johan's representatives respectfully were unable to reach agreement. Only at that juncture did the team and Johan's agent begin considering trade options.

As has been well documented, the Twins organization has a rich history of acquiring quality players via trade. Examples include the acquisitions of Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano and Boof Bonser from the Giants; Eric Milton and Cristan Guzman from the Yankees; and Rick Aguilera and Kevin Tapani from the Mets. With that history in mind, Bill Smith and talent evaluators such as Mike Radcliff, Rob Antony and Terry Ryan engaged in a process aimed at helping ensure the long-term competitiveness of the franchise.

With hopes of repeating that trade success, the deal brings four high quality young players to the Twins system:

Carlos Gomez - OF - 22 Years Old - Ranked as
Mets' 3rd Best Prospect by Baseball America
Native of Dominican Republic is a true five-tool
athlete with game-changing speed and an above average arm ... Made Major League debut with the Mets in 2007.

Deolis Guerra - RHP - 18 Years Old - Ranked as Mets' 2nd Best Prospect by Baseball America
The Venezulean native was the Opening Day starter
for Mets' Class A Port St. Lucie club at the age of 17... projects to be an impact starter ... pitched in the 2007 Futures Game

Philip Humber - RHP - 25 Years Old - Ranked as Mets' 7th Best Prospect by Baseball America
Won championship game of 2003 College World Series
for Rice ... Was the Mets first round pick - third
overall - in the 2004 draft ... Has a great curve
ball.

Kevin Mulvey - RHP - 22 Years Old - Ranked as Mets' 4th Best Prospect by Baseball America
The Mets top pick in the 2006 draft, throws four
pitches for strikes ... Was the Mets Minor League
Pitcher of the Year and pitched in the 2007 Futures Game.

These acquisitions only add to the Twins impressive nucleus of young, impact players. Ron Gardenhire can take comfort in knowing he has a lineup anchored by some of the game's best young offensive stars in Joe Mauer, Justin Morneau, Michael Cuddyer and Delmon Young; a veteran bullpen led by all-star closer Joe Nathan; and a young emerging starting rotation featuring Scott Baker, Boof Bonser, Kevin Slowey and the return of Francisco Liriano. The pitching rotation will be young, but talented, and we are confident that Ron Gardenhire and pitching coach Rick Anderson will mold this group into a successful unit.

Once again, thank you for your incredible support of Twins baseball. We look forward to seeing you at the Metrodome again this spring.

Win Twins!!!

Dave St. Peter
President
Brian Boyaji EL-NINO
Feb 3 '08
I'm assuming Owens settles in as a 4th or 5th outfield type, which puts him in the crapshoot. You might want to leave a couple of extra bucks above $1 for him because of the speed, but he's not going to be all that useful on a White Sox team that generally plays an Earl Weaver style of ball and probably isn't going to do a lot of late inning pinch-running.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 3 '08
Joe Crede Minnesota Twins
I'm assuming Fields is the starter right now, with Crede on his way out of town if he proves he's healthy this spring. If Crede's somehow on the White Sox on Opening Day, I'm still assuming Fields has the job, and the bid goes down accordingly.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 3 '08
Coco Crisp Oakland Athletics
He's a great Roto earner even when he's not helping the Red Sox out all that much, but the Red Sox have the deep pockets and the wisdom to go with Ellsbury if they think he'll be a better contributor in real life. If Crisp isn't starting, the bid has to come way down.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 3 '08
Brendan Harris Los Angeles Dodgers
I'm betting more on his subpar second half (713 OPS, 4 HR, 20 RBI, 1 SB, 234 AB) than his strong first half. Harris doesn't look to like the kind of hitter where the doubles suddenly turn into home runs, and I think 2007 might not only be as good as it gets, it might be better than it ever will be again.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 3 '08

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