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Daniel Cabrera Washington Nationals
Cabrera could be one of those big-time sleepers we're all looking for. Of course, he's shown us the downside of pitching 200 innings of bad baseball, but not that many guys strike out 166 hitters. If you can get him cheap, which looks like a pretty sure thing, you can always dump him. If he goes back to his old, consistent home runs allowed rate, he could be useful. Think Oliver Perez of last year.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Feb 17 '08
Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox
donbru:

As I said below, the drop in the Clemens number doesn't mean that the perception of Clemens was good. Far from it. It means more people than not were either unconvinced or turned off by McNamee. And Clemens' performance was indeed lip-licking bad.

I've never argued that I believe that Roger Clemens is innocent. If you find one post of mine that says that, let me know. You won't.

I agree with you that some people jumped all over Clemens after Pettitte came forward. However, there were also some who thought Clemens was guilty prior to that point. There are even more who thought he was guilty during his career.

I'd like to hear your honest answer about my question about Pettitte, though. Sure, he came forward. But he only did HGH twice in 2002? Do you think that's true? I tend to agree with what you've said elsewhere about how HGH probably does far more to help your workout regimen than it does to increase your God-given ability. But do you really believe that the two times Pettitte took HGH in 2002 are what led to his 2.39 ERA/1.03 WHIP in 2005? And those were the only two times he did it?

Really?
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 17 '08
Brian Wilson Los Angeles Dodgers
Bochy confirmed he would enter the season as the Giants' closer.

Did the job after being recalled in August, and cut down those walks.

Not much competition and the Giants are going nowhere, so the job should be his all year unless he implodes.

I like him a lot at these prices.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Feb 17 '08
John Patterson Washington Nationals
Patterson looked like a stud, but it was only one year of success, so he's not worth much anymore. However, he does have that 2005 upside. Maybe bringing him out early is a good strategy to either score a coup or have someone overspend. Can't really put a dollar value on guys like this: they're the crapshoot and the fun in auctions.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Feb 17 '08
Less is Mo these days. Too much competition, too much clank in that glove, too little PT. If you can get him for $5 or less, he's worth a flyer, but the upside is disappearing. New park might help.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Feb 17 '08
John Patterson Washington Nationals
Needs a 4x4 bid.

He is apparently healthy after forearm surgery.

Less than 100 IP logged the last two injury plagued seasons after his breakout 2005, so really a crapshoot.

I think he is worth a $1 flier if he does not implode this spring.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Feb 17 '08
Kevin Mulvey Minnesota Twins
MikeG, you may also want to consider Lenny DiNardo on Oakland.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 17 '08
Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox
Amen, Toz.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Feb 17 '08
Kevin Mulvey Minnesota Twins
I think I saw that Slowey was taken. However, I think Perkins is avail. I like him, and he's a lefty, so he will at least get decent innings in relief if he doesn't crack the rotation right away. I like him better than Humber as a prospect as well.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 17 '08
Needs a 4x4 bid...

Not a favorite of mine, but looks like he might be the starting LF for the Nats to open the season. Put up nice numbers after coming back to the NL in mid-August, but still cannot hit RHP and is a train wreck in the OF.

There's a reason he has never had more than 336 AB's in a season, and I don't expect him to surpass that total this year.

Dukes, Langerhans and Mackowiack will all get time in LF this year when Pena's poor fundamentals drive Acta insane.

I'm thinking around $8-$9.

Thoughts?


Keith Cromer Slyke
Feb 17 '08
Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox
I said I wouldn't do this, but I'm back. Don - unless you have missed the last 40 posts, the point is not whether Clemens did or did not take steroids.

The point that both Mike and I and others have been making is the lazy logical reasoning involved in: McNamee said it was true and Pettite said it was true, so it must be true, when Pettite is a confirmed liar and McNamee is a confirmed liar, and there is still no failed drug test or other positive evidence that Clemens did take steroids.

Perhaps the question is better posed this way? Why believe a confirmed and admitted liar over an alleged one? I have a few simple answers that no one wants to hear. One, Clemens is a jerk. Note the free pass for Pettitte, as, somehow, admission made it okay that he took steroids and lied about it (see my prior posts about McCarthy-ism). Two, we hate successful, overpaid baseball players. Three, we love train wrecks.

Let me hit the Mitchell report as well. The Mitchell report isn't about drug dealers. Frankly, it isn't about steroids either. It is about naming names. It is about justification of investigation. It is about Bud Selig's legacy. Look at the conversation we are no longer having: the Commissioner's role in overlooking all of this in the interest of increased homers, increased entertainment, and, of course, increased profit. Please, let's not be naive enough to think that the Mitchell report has some noble purpose.

I'll sum up this way. I don't care who took or did not take steroids, unless it affects my bid price. Why? Because any morality that anyone attempts to inflict upon its use is misguided; you knew from as early as McGwire's andro controversy that it was going on, and you bought the tickets and watched the games anyway. Now you want to buy the ticket for the train wreck afterward. What will baseball con you into buying next?
John Toczydlowski Toz
Feb 17 '08
Doug Mientkiewicz Florida Marlins
Well, looks like there is a good shot he will make the Pirates. The Pirates would like Pearce to play everyday, and that will most likely mean he starts the year in AAA.

If Minky makes the Pirates, he is not going take AB's away from LaRoche, so I assume he would be used primarily as a PH off the bench.

Not sure you could even justify a $1 bid right now.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Feb 17 '08
Rotoworld is reporting Gallardo might have torn cartilage in his right knee. If this is true and he needs surgery, that would put him on the DL for a couple of weeks to begin the season.

That could affect his bid limits with several owners, but I would still not let him go for anything less than $15.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Feb 17 '08
Kevin Mulvey Minnesota Twins
I do think he may see the majors in 2008, but not until late in the year.

I have not seen Mulvey pitch, but he only has 2 starts above AA, so I'm sure the Twins would like to see how he fares against better competition before calling him up. The scouts say he has three above average pitches (lower to mid 90's fastball, slider and curve) but not electric stuff.

Slowey, Perkins and Humber will have more of an impact in 2008, IMO. Are any of them available?
Keith Cromer Slyke
Feb 17 '08
Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox
MikeG,

Holy crap it went from 95% to 92%-90%. Clemens must have done a great job on Capitol Hill!

I guess you like buying pitchers in the draft that have their ERA's go from 7.00 to 6.80 from one year to the next. That 2%-5% drop shows they are making a dramatic improvement.

I will now take my tongue out of my cheek.

Has anything since the Mitchell report came out, made it look like Clemens didn't take HGH or Steroids?

All I have seen is more circumstancial evidence that supports the notion that he took the stuff.

MikeG, yo may want to reread this whole thread and realize that some people did not comment on Clemens Guilt or Innocence until Pettitte confirmed some of Mcnamee's allegations. Remember too that Clemens lawyer was trashing McNamee about how he said he injected Clemens wife when it first came out. I think that was actually confirmed by Clemens himself at the hearing.

Please post some links of articles from reporters who actually think Celemens is totally innocent of taking PED's.
Donny Brubaker donbru
Feb 17 '08
I think McNamee, being the ex-cop scumbag that he is, kept the "evidence" to extort Roger in the future, but when his freedom was on the line, he brought the evidence in to save himself. All McNamee had to do was say, Rog, I've got all this stuff which will expose you and your Hall of Fame career, so how about a $500,000 personal services contract to keep me quiet? This witch hunt is about the hypocriphal morality in this country. Unless we can point fingers and make examples of people, our zealot, born-again leaders can't recruit more sinners to their army of reformed evil-doers. Oh, Jesus, I'm sorry I molested those 30 boys, please forgive me. Taking or even selling steroids is like ignoring a don't walk on the grass sign in this day and age.
Jeff Jaffee JeffJaffee
Feb 17 '08
Travis Hafner New York Yankees
Wish I knew more. I sit in Cleveland, watch or attend most games, read every line and between the lines of the local reporters, including veteran Paul Hoynes, one of the best story diggers around. And I don't know what happened to Pronk. Except that the Indians signed him to a big contract in the middle of the season as he was struggling. If I can get him at $24 or $25, he's mine.
David Molyneaux NeauxBrainr
Feb 17 '08
Jim Thome Baltimore Orioles
The 5x5 price probably has to come down. Thome went for $21 in Sportsline, and that price is much more on the mark. He's still a great hitter, but he's neutral in BA and a zero in SB. There are also a lot of DH-onlies out there, and you'll be better off playing for one of the weaker ones in the endgame than going over $22 or $23 for Thome.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 17 '08
Daniel Cabrera Washington Nationals
Maybe -$11. Baltimore is rebuilding. Infield in flux. No hitting. Unless he is injured or traded, Cabrera could do another 200 innings, and he might not win 9.
David Molyneaux NeauxBrainr
Feb 17 '08
Travis Hafner New York Yankees
He went all the way to $28 in Sportsline. As Jurgen points out, there' a better chance Pronk returns to his 2004-2006 form than falls off the map entirely. He's no Frank Thomas, though, especially in terms of BA and OBP.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Feb 17 '08

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