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Esteban German Chicago Cubs
What's the position flexibility worth here, do you figure? And will he play less?
Mike Landau ML-
Mar 17 '08
Carlos Beltran Houston Astros
Met anouncers are saying his knees are bad, and may have to move to left which would be less stress on him. For now he remains in center and puts up great numbers. Of the top twenty 5x5 players, in mixed league ratings, he the only centerfielder. If you count Crawford, who could play center, he second still no small potatoes.
Joe Lannon JEL
Mar 16 '08
Andy Sonnanstine Chicago Cubs
Two more relief innings today from Sonnanstine. Meanwhile, Hammel and Niemann keep starting. Jackson, who is out of options gets one of the spots. Worried, I am.
Michael Mendelson kidmikey
Mar 16 '08
I don't think it means that at all. Early in the season teams don't need their #5 starter. Sometimes those guys are sent down to get starts, other times they are used in long relief. With the Rays having two early games and then going into a regular April schedule, they may not need their #5 until game 12 or later, the third week of the season.

Plus, a lot of lower tier starters are used in middle relief in spring training as they are trying to get the most work against the starting hitters for the top of rotation guys and end of bullpen guys.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Mar 16 '08
From MLB.com Today:

"With Kazmir's absense from the early regular-season rotation, Maddon entertained the prospect of using other arms in the rotation, specifically Andy Sonnanstine and J.P. Howell.

Although both pitchers have been used in relief work, Maddon said they "would be able to be stretched out easily" if the Rays chose that option."

Sounds like Sonnanstine is ticketed for the bullpen this year. That sure doesn't make any sense and certainly lowers his Draft value.

Michael Mendelson kidmikey
Mar 16 '08
Jason Bay Seattle Mariners
If you have a good league, draft flexibilty is not only an advantage, it is the only way to compete.

In my league (21 years old), I dominated for many years with hitting dominated strategies that were essentially precursors to the LIMA plan.

Over the years, the league has swung so heavily into these type of strategies, that I have had to abandon my preferred method depending on the flow of the draft.

Last year, stud hitters were going for $10-$12 over value and nobody was paying for pitching.

I wound up with Nomar as my highest paid hitter ($18), a bunch of cheap #2 type pitchers, a deep bullpen made up of closer in waitings, and incredible balance, with Josh Hamilton being my cheapest hitter ($10) other than my #2 catcher (Ruiz at $3).

I won the league going away with my balance and great pitching.

Good leagues just don't allow you to go in with a simple strategy like the old LIMA days.
paul schneider badgermania
Mar 16 '08
John Lackey Chicago Cubs
I wrote this about 2 months ago- "He's been improving every year. But, even though he reduced his walk rate considerably last year, his K rate went down also. He's always reminded me of Kevin Appier. It's probably his violent motion. Appier was also very durable until he had a major injury at age 30. I wonder what's in store for Lackey. I think a conservative bid value is in order. I think all three bids are in line despite last year's great performance."

Too bad his injury came before the season. Someone might have taken a huge loss in my leagues and that someone wouldn't have been me.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Mar 16 '08
Also, if you're in a keeper league, why not take the 2009 discount? If you can still count on 175 innings of Lackey and save a few 2009 dollars, that's a sweet deal.
Mike Dean TMU2008
Mar 16 '08
Brandon McCarthy Atlanta Braves
Out 4-6 weeks; not supposed to be serious, but no reason to drop a buck on him at this point.
Mike Dean TMU2008
Mar 16 '08
Miguel Batista Atlanta Braves
Redefining lack of respect, as Seattle has more-or-less told him he's the #5 starter. Remarkable organizational maturity, the ability to tell a 16-game-winner that he wasn't all that is rare.
Mike Dean TMU2008
Mar 16 '08
Carlos Beltran Houston Astros
Like Martin Prince to Ray Bradbury, I am aware of Beltran's defensive and base running work. I still don't think he does enough with the stick to put him in the star category.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Mar 16 '08
I just wandered into this thread, as I usually only comment on AL players, but I have to disagree with MikeG's comment, "This has made me look at Beltran and made me realize that - if you take the Roto component out of it - he's not a great ballplayer."

This takes out his defensive contribution and baserunning, which has been historically very, very good. Since coming to the Mets he's been no worse than 8% better than the average CF defensively. That's a very high number. Willie Mays was +5% for his career. He's also got an 88% success rate stealing bases. While he doesn't steal 30+ bases anymore, that is a tremendous success rate. Taking into account a 116 OPS+ from a 105 RATE2 fielder in CF with an 88% basestealing rate and I think you've got a star.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Mar 16 '08
John Lackey Chicago Cubs
As for Hunter here are his Range Factor and Zone Rating rankings for all of MLB since 01
YR RF ZR
07 9 7
06 11 13
05 HURT
04 10 5
03 6 2
02 10 6
01 4 5

While these aren't the most advanced defensive metrics and they have their flaws, they are the easiest available. And looking at Davenport Translations on BP's website, Hunter's pretty much the league average CF right now, not much different than Matthews, although Matthews was better last year. And, Matthews has been 3% than league average in LF with very few games and RF over his career. Vlad has been 6 and 5% worse than league average in RF over the past two years.

Over Hunter's career he's now 1% better than the league average CF, significantly behind contemporaries Andruw Jones 12%, Cameron 7%, Edmonds 5%, and Beltran 5%.

Yes, he steals HR, but myths are created by images not reality.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Mar 16 '08
Pedro Martinez Boston Red Sox
If healthy, he puts up numbers like 2004. ERA could be lower, WHIP a little higher. His K/W hasn't moved; he'll be more hittable and with a few more shots into the seats.

If healthy!
Mark Bond booond
Mar 16 '08
Barry Zito Oakland Athletics
Why waste money on someone likely to go 4.50 and 1.40? In a 4x4 he's a drag on two cats and a zero on another. If he played for a good team and you could hope for 12-15 wins then he has some value but he could win 8 with that team and have 200 innings as a boat anchor to the other two cats.

Rick and Ilsa had Paris; Barry has Peter Magowan's millions.
Mark Bond booond
Mar 16 '08
Carlos Beltran Houston Astros
Mike, funny you mentioned the OPS+, I was going to mention that, too.

My point is that BJ should've been made into an outfielder and DH for 2005. He was ready to play for the Rays then. Look at his 2004 season in the minors. He tore it up. They poured water on the fire. I'm not saying he'd be a hero at 20 but they pushed back the learning curve.

BJ has real power. If he can make pitch recognition progress he'll surpass Beltran like he's standing still. Compare his numbers at 19 to David Wright's at 21 - they were near equals. The only difference was Upton was playing the wrong position.

What's crazy is Justin could be better.
Mark Bond booond
Mar 16 '08
John Lackey Chicago Cubs
I'm thinking Vlad's going to DH. As far as Lackey goes, I'd drop his price, but 170-190 innings of Lackey are still worth a bid.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Mar 16 '08
Andre Ethier Los Angeles Dodgers
Hit his 4th HR today.

.300/.429/.600 in 40 at-bats this spring.

He is too good a hitter for Torre to let him waste away on the bench.

Paycheck or not, Pierre will lose AB's in the crowded Dodger OF.

I still think he is worth a $10 bid.

Keith Cromer Slyke
Mar 16 '08
Manny Parra Chicago Cubs
Another great outing today. 0.64 ERA and a 15/2 K/BB ratio in 14 innings this spring.

Get him if you can.

Keith Cromer Slyke
Mar 16 '08
Barry Zito Oakland Athletics
RAR says he will cost you $.
Kris Kay BigTrain
Mar 16 '08

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