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Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox
Well, now that we've all piled on Clemens and Mike for a while (not that they BOTH didn't ask us to!), here's a question about McNamee.

What was his real motive for keeping those syringes besides the possibility, somewhere down the line, of blackmail?

Has anyone mentioned that? It seems to me McNameee is getting a big, big pass if we buy his contention that he "distrusted Roger." Distrust someone else, like Radomski, of course, but Clemens would be the last guy in the world to rat on him.

All logic says McNamee was keeping those syringes to make sure he could trust Clemens to take care of him for as long as he took care of those syringes.

And then there's this CSI question. If the lab tests show steroids mixed in with Clemens's blood, it doesn't mean that McNamee couldn't have added the steroids at a later date. I understand that.

Suppose, however, the lab tests show no trace of Vitamin B-12 in the syringes? Is that conclusive proof that Clemens has perjured himself at least to that extent?
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 16 '08
Casey Kotchman Florida Marlins
If, when it's all said and done, Casey's as bad as Casey at the bat, I'll eat my hat.
Alex Patton Alex
Feb 16 '08
Bobby Crosby Milwaukee Brewers
What a bum this guy is. Injured and under-performing every year.
Scott Shea SJS
Feb 16 '08
George Sherrill Atlanta Braves
I still think it's too early to determine who will be annointed the closer in Baltimore. This guy is used to coming in and getting 1 batter out. Theres no guarantee he wins the job. I'm a skeptic. If my auction were today - I might pay $5 for him as a flier.
Derek Correale Jobu
Feb 16 '08
I read that Ray is hoping to come back around August this year. So, maybe you buy Sherrill (great analysis, Toz, you're convincing me, too) around $10-12, and you stash Ray away, mainly for 2009, at around $4, and you've got your foot in the Saves door. Sherrill is all you need to get started, as we all know that a second closer isn't too hard to acquire at mid year.
Scott Shea SJS
Feb 16 '08
Orlando Cabrera Cleveland Indians
SS is thin in the AL. Cabera's only peers are Jeter, Young, and Renteria - maybe Lugo if you think his AVG will bounce back. I'd be willing to go to $18 or $19 for Cabrera. The AVG will probaly drop down a bit, but as Mike points out, we may see a few more HR in Chi. I just hope he keeps running; we need those steals from Orlando.
Scott Shea SJS
Feb 16 '08
Joe Mauer Minnesota Twins
I think the problem is that you don't accept the sabermetric definition of replacement level. Replacement level is defined as the quality of player that is available in the market to replace the player- essentially a Quad A type player in the minors. I use it in Rotisserie to define the player who is available on the free agent list.

Baseball Prospectus calculates marginal wins above replacement player. The replacement player at thirdbase is considerably better than the replacement player at catcher, both in real baseball and in Rotisserie. When measured against this level of player, Mauer is not replaceable. When defense is included he's far superior to every other AL catcher. Put him at third, and he's slightly ahead middle of the pack with far fewer marginal wins above replacement. A team interested in winning wants to maximize the differential between their players and the replacement level player. If the Twins get an average thirdbaseman and have the best catcher, that's far superior to Mauer at 3B and a replacement level catcher in terms of actual wins.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 16 '08
Chien-Ming Wang Kansas City Royals
I wrote an article several years ago about the process of baseball salary arbitration. I broke the link into 3 pieces to fit it on the page- there are no spaces b/w the pieces. http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/
primate_studies/discussion/
eugene_freedman_2002_11_27_0/

Essentially, the moral of the story is that the arbitrator has to pick the one salary that is more correct among the two offer. The arbitrator has no authority to select the correct contract in the middle.
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Feb 16 '08
Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox
donbru, you forgot a couple? Was it McNamee that was fillibusting while being interviewed by the committee, Was it McNamee that kept licking his lips during the interview (I'd like to play Clemens in a poker game), Was it McNamee that said that it was Vitamin B-12 he was injected with and the reason why he took B-12 is because his mommy always wanted him to take his vitamins to grow big and strong. But all in all - McNamee is the one who came out looking bad - LOL :) TOO FUNNY
Derek Correale Jobu
Feb 16 '08
Rich Harden Oakland Athletics
Toz, that comment has been made so many times. But you know, the reality is that pitchers pitch more now with fewer injuries. Yes the 300IP guys are gone, but those guys no longer retire at age 31.

It's not training and breaking balls and whatever. It's that those workloads will kill pitchers with odds busting regularity. The good ol' days weren't good ol' days. Koufax had three of the best seasons in all of baseball before age 32...and couldn't pitch at all after. This was the regular thing, not an exception.

It's not theory, it's not training. It's teams looking at their investment and saying that when they are paying tens of millions it is no longer OK to shred an arm in 3 years. And that USED to be the norm.

You give me an inning pitched amount. The injury rates aren't any higher or lower now than they were 30 40 or 70 years ago.
Steve Parsons stevep
Feb 16 '08
Joe Mauer Minnesota Twins
Eugene,
I appreciate your display of rhetoric. Unfortunately my point is that he is a good real ball player, but as such OUGHT to put in a place where he is likely contribute more. A team that is serious about winning would take him out from behind the plate, where he creates fewer runs scored and doesn't create that many extra defensive outs....plus has his relatively low outs creation at bat minimized by his low PT. And put him in a place where they get another 100-150 ABs from him, plus probably effects their defense quite a lot more.

Don't get me wrong. He's a heckuva a lot better catcher (combo offense and defense) than any Molina you care to name. But a REAL team, a team that actually has pretensions to winning, would gt him out of there because he's going to generate a heckuva a lot more wins playing the extra 20-30 games. And he's going to be able to play defense almost anywhere short of the outfield.

In real value....he's a sort of plus catcher and not a major player. That's true. He's a bit better in fantasy...but still awfully replaceable.
Steve Parsons stevep
Feb 16 '08
Robb Quinlan Los Angeles Angels
Wake me when he's over.
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08
Sean Casey Boston Red Sox
All-around bad player. $1, but be prepared for frustration and heartburn.
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08
Mike Hessman Detroit Tigers
Good pop, too old, no place to play -- still worth a buck, maybe...
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08
Craig Monroe Pittsburgh Pirates
Incredibly frustrating to watch, with that long, looping swing. Every now and then he gets lucky, but even Detroit's lineup couldn't stomach his BA.
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08
Toast, basically...
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08
Brad Wilkerson Boston Red Sox
Great, if you like players on the DL...
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08
George Sherrill Atlanta Braves
You could do a whole lot worse than to take a flyer on this guy,
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08
Casey Kotchman Florida Marlins
A born bum if there ever was one.
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08
Roger Clemens Boston Red Sox
I imagine that MikeG was never a police reporter on a big city daily.

The thing is, Clemens can be a dirty cheater and McNamee a lying weasel and they can BOTH be guilty. Crimes are solved when one of the low-life, lower echelon types finally turns canary and starts to sing, and rats out the big dogs above him.

Oldest story in the book. Woof!
Michael Walsh Amaros
Feb 16 '08

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