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Manny Ramirez Boston Red Sox
Speaking of "added pounds of muscle" and "best shape of his career" check out this article.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/touchingbase/2008/01/what-does-in-the-best-shape-of.html
Eugene Freedman EugeneFreed
Jan 30 '08
Justin Duchscherer Baltimore Orioles
Looks to be headed to the rotation this year. How do you think this will affect his bid? Hasn't started a game in the majors since 2003, but was effective in those starts and had a couple good seasons in the minors while starting in the Boston and Texas organizations.

If the hip is fully healed in time for spring training, what are the thoughts?

I'm thinking he is worth a gamble if you are looking to close out your staff with a mid-level SP. 4x4 AL bid range of maybe $5-$7? Thoughts?

Keith Cromer Slyke
Jan 30 '08
Joey Gathright Toronto Blue Jays
Can he somehow get 350 AB's with KC this year? I know Moore likes the speed element he brings to the line-up and he should get the bulk of time in the OF while Guillen is serving his suspension, so that should help. The .307 BA last year was nice, and was more in line with his ML scan, but how can a guy with his speed get caught stealing 8 times in 17 attempts? If the Royals grow tired with the Gload/Sheely (ugh) platoon at 1B and give Butler some time at 1B to work on his defense there, Joey G just might get these AB's. If he does, 20-25 SB is a strong possibility with a decent BA. I like the prices here...Joey should be on your radar as a source of some cheap speed come draft day.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Jan 30 '08
Barry Bonds San Francisco Giants
I doubt that the Seattle F.O. will consider Barry. It is extremely "family-entertainment" oriented. Witness trading Freddy Garcia a few years back, and Carlos Guillen a bit later. Both had the reputations of being 'party boys' around town, so they had to go.

The F.O. also has this love affair with Vidro and he can't play the field anymore. So we're stuck with a slow as molasses, singles-hitting DH. I don't see Bonds as being in their plans, even if it might make for a few more wins this season.
Dan Domike SeattleDan
Jan 30 '08
Josh Beckett Los Angeles Dodgers
With Santana's move to the NL, Beckett's price tag (along with the Halladay's, Sabathia's and Bedard's of the world), just went up a little bit more.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Jan 30 '08
David Eckstein San Diego Padres
I have owned Eckstein in the past, and what's nice about owning him is that he is consistently right around a $10 earner at the MI spot, but you can almost always get him for single digits. Go in with the expectation that he will earn you anywhere from $9-$13 and bid accordingly. With all the big time SS's in the AL, I would suspect you can get him for lower than Alex's bid, and if you do, he will be a nice 'little' compliment to your team.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Jan 30 '08
Matt Capps Atlanta Braves
LOL. Correct, I was not born before 1960...1973 was the year so I missed out on the '71 festivities as well.

I do have a framed picture of the famed Maz HR on my basement wall, with the ball rocketing in the air with the big Longines Clock over the scoreboard in the background.

Just a constant reminder of happier times for us demoralized Pirates fans.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Jan 30 '08
Paul Byrd Boston Red Sox
No, your points were salient. I was talking more to the segment of the crowd that sometimes loses perspective and says "I'll never own Paul Byrd." Heck, I don't want him either. But I need to set a price that makes sure I don't get Mike Maroth instead.

And I know what you're saying. I watched Byrd against the Red Sox early in the year on ESPN. He cruised through 5, and then loaded the bases in the sixth. Each pitch gave me a heart attack. The funny thing was that Byrd looked mad at the world each time the Sox dinked one in, as if he was somehow surprised that his "stuff" wasn't working.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Jan 30 '08
Jacoby Ellsbury New York Yankees
Wow...I couldn't agree more with each of these posts.

Those 97 AB's in September will inflate his worth dramatically. His ML scan shows me he is an average OF at best...reminds me of a poor man's Tom Goodwin with less speed.

Let somebody else get sucked into the hype and bid $18-$20 (which someone will).

I'll grab Gathright for 1/3 of the price and get equal production.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Jan 30 '08
Johan Santana Minnesota Twins
Until I see their books, you can't convince me that $22 million per year is a big deal to the Mets.

For a healthy Santana. That's the only thing that should give Minaya or the Wilpons pause, as I'm sure it has.
Alex Patton Alex
Jan 30 '08
Paul Byrd Boston Red Sox
Mike, it wasn't my intention to run the bus over Byrd, but re-reading my previous post, I suppose I did. I actually like Byrd from a real baseball perspective as not just a "bullpen saver", but as a legitimate member of the rotation. I mean how many clubs wouldn't take 4.59 over 6-1/3 every time out. Heck, that's a number 2 guy for some teams...:)

And dagnabit, if he wasn't the Indians best pitcher in the playoffs.

From a Fantasy POV, I agree with you (and I'm using my own words here) that sometimes you just need a pitcher that simply doesn't suck, or won't suck. However, I still think it's easiest to just check the box score the next morning.
Gary Cruciani Megary
Jan 30 '08
Matt Capps Atlanta Braves
As someone who has gotten a lifetime of enjoyment out of rooting against the Yankees (they don't call me a masochist for nothing), I've had a soft spot for the Pirates since 1960. But since Slyke probably wasn't even born then, you're right Toz.

Now, in defense of Mike, y'all are aware his bid is for 5x5? Different animal than 4x4.

I'd say his bid and mine are the same.
Alex Patton Alex
Jan 30 '08
Barry Bonds San Francisco Giants
I was a young lad, just starting out my own career in New York, when Willie came here to finish out his. And it was indeed a sad final act to see up close. Willie did not help the Mets in any way on the field, nor was he much help at the box office.

Bonds as the DH on the right team -- say, Seattle -- might well be the difference that gets the team into the playoffs, and THAT would put fannies in the seats. So, from this standpoint, I can't see why he should retire or why he shouldn't get a pretty decent salary to keep playing.
Alex Patton Alex
Jan 30 '08
Paul Byrd Boston Red Sox
I didn't realize my offhanded comment on Paul Byrd was going to start such a flurry of discussion.

There's no doubt a guy who has given up 11.42 H/9 over the last two seasons is a huge Roto risk. But, as everyone points out, Byrd counterbalances the risk by not hurting himself with walks and keeping his team in the game enough to put himself in line for the win.

I owned Byrd all year up until the final week of the season, when I waived him because I had more to lose in ERA/WHIP than I had to gain. $9 earnings are ho hum for a starting pitcher, but that put Byrd 31st amongst A.L. starters. In a 12-team league, that made him someone's #3 starter. You might hold your nose at Byrd, but you need at least one innings-eater like Byrd or Jon Garland to win.
Mike Gianella MikeG
Jan 30 '08
I agree with Toz on this one. The Braves had a lot of concerns with Marte's developement and also feared he was hiding a torn UCL in his elbow, so they moved him to add Renteria. The Braves continue to be at the top of their game when evaluating talent.
Keith Cromer Slyke
Jan 30 '08
Francisco Liriano Philadelphia Phillies
With Sanatana traded this adds even more questions to one of the more interesting players this season. I'm sure they would have liked to minimize his innings but with their ace gone how much will be on Liriano to assume that role? Liriano as was mentioned previously has a delivery that unless changed is going to cause repeated arm problems. In his 16 starts he faced 3 teams twice with 2 out of the 3 second starts being worse then the first. No doubt he could earn $25 or $0 this year. I'll be maxing out at a bid limit of $10 this year but I'll be talking him up in hopes that someone will bid up to $20 on the hype and waste $20 on a pitcher that might only give them 100IP.
Rick Morray LuckyCharm
Jan 30 '08
Paul Byrd Boston Red Sox
If you're a baseball fan, he is the type of pitcher that you have to love because the thought is that his numbers wouldn't change much regardless if he's pitching Sundays in the AL Central or the North Valley Beer League. He gives us all the hope or impression that if we only learned to throw strikes, maybe, just maybe that could have been us admitting HGH use before Game 7 of the ALCS...ahh, dreams.

But as a fantasy pitcher, if he's on your team you just scratch your head and ask, "How did it all come to this?"

Regards to JohnB for managing to watch Byrd pitch. As a Tribe fan, I normally would only watch the half innings when the Indians were batting, using the remote as a substitute for closing my eyes when Byrd got out there. Though I have to say, the windup is really cool.
Gary Cruciani Megary
Jan 30 '08
Matt Capps Atlanta Braves
The only absurd comment in this thread is that Slyke is an unbiased Pirates fan!!!!! :)
John Toczydlowski Toz
Jan 30 '08
Johan Santana Minnesota Twins
Going back to the other trade packages, my guess is this. One, the Yankees back off Hughes and Kennedy and, two, the Sox pulled Lester back and went with an Ellsbury package. Now we can debate whether the Ellsbury package is better, or whether Hughes/Cabrera is better, but, in the end, packages without Kennedy and Lester combined with leaving Santana in the AL were not acceptable.

And as said below, the Twins didn't have much of a choice; for them, the NL option was better than the AL option.

Santana will get 6 years, not 7. I'm guessing about $22 million per year will get it done. That puts my heart in my throat if I am a GM, but with a new park, a new television contract, and the collapse of last year, what needs to be done will be done.
John Toczydlowski Toz
Jan 30 '08
I don't disagree that the Twinkies may had a better offer at the deadline (a la RJ to HOU) but... they also had Santana's no-trade clause to work around. He already told them that he would not waive his no-trade during the season.

I think if any of these prospects turn out to be a star, then the trade evens out. Even if they don't, what other choices did Minnie have?
E Park yoda
Jan 30 '08

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